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The Farce Awakens: Kylo Revan by CyberII The Farce Awakens: Kylo Revan by CyberII
It's official, I quit the fandom, ban it, pour some napalm over it and sit at the campfire.
How can I take any single character in the new movie seriously? Do they even take themselves seriously? It's like a bunch of cosplayers (and not even decent ones, so I'm not planning to insult the cosplayers here) decided to make a fan movie for shits and giggles. And the worst part - I've seen more inspired fan movies with just a bunch of cosplayers and no budget having more love and attentiveness to their canon integrity.

Even Dark Helmet is more intimidating than the new baddie moping around the movie.

- Иди наситх, старый хрыч! Ты не можешь мне указывать, что мне делать или как одеваться!
- Могу, потому что это зовется "фирменным стилем".
- Ты не мой отец...

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:icontinytina7:
Tinytina7 Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2016
Screw 4-6. 1-3 and 7 are better
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:iconedelstein-austria:
Edelstein-Austria Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2016
*Glares with hatred*
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Vader999 Featured By Owner May 4, 2016
Also, wouldn't it have been fun if Kylo Ren was indeed Revan? Make him into a grey villain fighting another dark villain, perhaps Darth Nihilus, also resurrected from the dead? Revan kills Han Solo because he sees Han as a smuggler scrub getting in his way of using a doomsday laser on Darth Sunshine, then the Alliance gangs up on him because Leia gets pissed off at Revan for killing her husband, only for Darth Nihilus to devour the world they're fighting over and for Revan to say "I told you so!" at the end. Hell, I can come up with better plots than the ANH ripoff they went with. TFA is almost a direct copy of ANH, except with a less badass villain and the OT heroes reduced to deadbeat versions of their former selves aside from Leia.......
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CyberII Featured By Owner May 5, 2016  Professional Traditional Artist
hah, well, according to KOTOR, that was even longer time ago than the movies, they could hardly meet. But yeah, even that is a better plot than TFA XD
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:iconvader999:
Vader999 Featured By Owner May 5, 2016
As I said, I could write better plots than TFA in my sleep. But then again, what can we expect from JJ Abrams? Guy's so unoriginal even his Trek films felt like ANH.
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Vader999 Featured By Owner May 4, 2016
I can see why you hate the new movie. So many EU stories would have made for better films. It was a great action film and a decent ANH ripoff, but it could have been far better given the EU stories in the Star Wars universe......
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:iconcyberii:
CyberII Featured By Owner May 5, 2016  Professional Traditional Artist
well, 'hate' is a word too strong for me, I guess I more of 'don't want it to ruin my childhood memories anymore'. As little as I am sentimental, I still don't appreciate the brutal sodomizing of things I once liked.
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:iconvader999:
Vader999 Featured By Owner May 5, 2016
Nobody does, my friend. Nobody does. 
I came to Star Wars through the EU. Watched the OT as a kid, but most of Star Wars that I experienced as a teen and an adult is the Expanded Universe of Star Wars. The Prequels and the OT were like entrance drugs to me. Then they just throw it all away to make an ANH clone, and a badly written one at that? It really makes my blood boil. But eh, it's still Star Wars, so I supported it somewhat even though I didn't like what they did.
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Vader999 Featured By Owner May 4, 2016
  • Also, wouldn't it have been fun if Kylo Ren was indeed Revan? Make him into a grey villain fighting another dark villain, perhaps Darth Nihilus, also resurrected from the dead? Revan kills Han Solo because he sees Han as a smuggler scrub getting in his way of using a doomsday laser on Darth Sunshine, then the Alliance gangs up on him because Leia gets pissed off at Revan for killing her husband, only for Darth Nihilus to devour the world they're fighting over and for Revan to say "I told you so!" at the end. Hell, I can come up with better plots than the ANH ripoff they went with. TFA is almost a direct copy of ANH, except with a less badass villain and the OT heroes reduced to deadbeat versions of their former selves aside from Leia.......

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MikesScribbles Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
+1
you said it all.
I think I'm going back to watching WWE. at least Dark Helmet could annoy you to death!
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CyberII Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2016  Professional Traditional Artist
At least Dark Helmet is a little bit funny
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:iconvarunrasputin:
VarunRasputin Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2016
You are complely right. Kylo Ren is the least intimidating Star Wars villain i have seen.
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:iconcjhaacke:
cjhaacke Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2016
Given I just ran into Revan in SWTOR, I find myself agreeing.
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:iconcyberii:
CyberII Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2016  Professional Traditional Artist
heh
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:icontheonly1zalo:
TheOnly1Zalo Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
lol
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:iconzanarnaryon:
ZanarNaryon Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Kylo Ren IS a cosplayer. He's the ultimate Dark Side fanboy
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:iconcyberii:
CyberII Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2016  Professional Traditional Artist
I couldn't but agree with that statement...
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Aeliren85 Featured By Owner Edited Mar 11, 2016
First of all, love the art piece itself. Also, I don't think Ren would care much even if he -were- his father. Only thing I disagree with is the use of "Force" as a verb/profanity replacement. I get that the usual profanity feels off, but "Force" just feels even worse to me. But that's just my own little pet peeve. Great job on the details of their robes and masks!

Now, on the on the movie itself: on one hand, I would have preferred a KotOR movie series. Hell, I would have preferred a KotOR III game over pretty much anything. On the other hand, I didn't find the movie to be -that- bad. Yeah, there were a lot of similarities between the original trilogy, but they're not all bad. Hell, they made fun of the clichéd "another Death Star" thing, at least they know it. Nobody's perfect, and add to that the pressure of making a sequel while trying to please masses of fans. Not an easy task.

Personally, I don't think Kylo Ren was supposed to be intimidating in the first place. His entire shtick was trying to fill the role of Darth Vader (Never mind the fact that Anakin turned evil because of love and was ultimately redeemed because of it, and Kylo tries staying away from it like the plague): badass and intimidating. He failed, and was humiliated by a novice as a result. But what you see is what he is: an insecure man who tries to make himself out as a more important person than he is and hides behind a mask to feel better about himself. He's -supposed- to be pathetic, and I presume that's why people are disappointed - they'd gotten used to having an imposing badass villain, Revan, Maul and Vader amongst others. Ironically, I find that Kylo Ren is more like Anakin from the prequels than Vader himself. Guess he succeeded in his goal after all, just not in the way he expected.

I don't like that they erased most of the original EU and nearly started from scratch. Pretty much the only things I'm glad are gone are Starkiller, the Vong, Chewie's death (at what cost, though?) and the Holiday Special, though unfortunately I'm not quite sure about that last one. Not much to do about it, though. The original EU will always hold a very special and dear place in my heart, KotOR in particular, but if I left every fandom that had a major change I didn't like, I wouldn't like much these days.

I'm not expecting to change anyone's opinion here considering past comments, but my personal opinion is "They changed it, but it doesn't mean it has to suck".
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:iconcyberii:
CyberII Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2016  Professional Traditional Artist
The replacement of the profanity was kinda spontaneous, like, what starts with the same letter XD at least, everyone got the idea.
The main problem of the new movie was the combination of all of the faults. Like, it got nothing - no worthy intimidating or even charismatic villain, no effort on creating anything new in this Galaxy far-far-away, while they dismissed anything that had been created for decades, no acting, no plot... In some other circumstances I would agree with Kylo Ren's role in this, yet the potential of that character was thrown aside, right now it's more of a fanon rather than a really explored in the canon depth of a character. Right now I'm just disagreeing with the general direction I see one of my favorite franchises is pushed towards.
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GreemX79 Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2016
I agree completely.
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:iconcyberii:
CyberII Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2016  Professional Traditional Artist
:) 
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MudslingerArtist Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2016
After seeing Femist frequency's review (Out of curiosity because I knew the fact that the leading roles were an afican man and a white woman), I will admit there were some themes in Kotor that even the new film...didn't handle well, such as good and evil being more than just absolutes and ranging effects of war - Despite kotor not fully going into detail about all sorts of post war crisis-es, the fact it hints to refugees, economic instability, and the grey a areas of morality people are running towards instead of fully light or dark side really really is a better story than the force awakens.

However, I'm just hoping the new movies add more content -> The work and art for the force awakens is beautiful...but it really feels like a story that needs to be better, even with extended scenes.
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:iconcyberii:
CyberII Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2016  Professional Traditional Artist
TFA is Disney now, with Disney cliches, storytelling and morality, not SW anymore...
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:iconhman999:
Hman999 Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2016
Kylo Revan?! I love it! I'd spread the word, but...
....it's called a "trademark." :D (Big Grin) 
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:iconcyberii:
CyberII Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2016  Professional Traditional Artist
:D lol
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:iconzyklonb-itzgass:
ZyklonB-ItzGass Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2016
Revan was much better! Kotor 4ever!
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:iconcyberii:
CyberII Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2016  Professional Traditional Artist
Yup!
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ZyklonB-ItzGass Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2016
Kylo is not even cool.. And awesome art btw :)
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:iconcyberii:
CyberII Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2016  Professional Traditional Artist
thxx :D
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:icontrollking01:
trollking01 Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2016
www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmFImt…

This may give you a reason to stop whining
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:iconcyberii:
CyberII Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2016  Professional Traditional Artist
if you think I'm whining, you missed the whole point.
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trollking01 Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2016
Bruh, It doesnt matter if the helmet is  the same the movie was still good
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:iconcyberii:
CyberII Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2016  Professional Traditional Artist
That's what the Disney mind-persuading you
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:icontrollking01:
trollking01 Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2016
Man, you really didnt like this movie did you?
Never mind 
I just saw you page and you are one of those people who isnt happy if everything doesnt stay the same
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:iconcyberii:
CyberII Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2016  Professional Traditional Artist
That's cool, I see you're one of these extrasensory people judging by the others' pages XD
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:icontrollking01:
trollking01 Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2016
Yup, you discovered my most deep secret
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:iconcyberii:
CyberII Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2016  Professional Traditional Artist
Hah XD
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ZombieFighter116 Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2016
Honestly, I felt like The Force Awakens was like Episodes IV and V with elements of KOTOR thrown into one great movie. The First Order reminded me alot of the Sith Empire from KOTOR. That and what you've drawn here about Kylo Ren's appearance being much akin to Revan's.
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:iconcyberii:
CyberII Featured By Owner Feb 29, 2016  Professional Traditional Artist
yep, the lame remake of the IV mostly
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:iconzombiefighter116:
ZombieFighter116 Featured By Owner Feb 29, 2016
I liked the movie, honestly. I was really impressed with the First Order.
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:iconcyberii:
CyberII Featured By Owner Feb 29, 2016  Professional Traditional Artist
The First Order (and the whole Death Star Reboot project) gave me an impression of it being orchestrated by someone taking their jobs seriously, and then, just before the movie events, thrown to a bunch of immature teenagers to have fun with it, or break it, whatever. 
Also, the more hammy it could get only if Hux had a thick german accent. Seriously, Disney? That's a bad caricature, not a decent continuation of an epic saga.
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Caine-of-Nod Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2016  Hobbyist Photographer
Freaking Hysterical!!!Giggle Giggle Giggle Giggle 
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:iconcyberii:
CyberII Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2016  Professional Traditional Artist
:D
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Caine-of-Nod Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2016  Hobbyist Photographer
Nod :) (Smile) 
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:iconrodlox:
Rodlox Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2016
even Darth Helmet was scarier than Kylo Ren.

great image.
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:iconcyberii:
CyberII Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2016  Professional Traditional Artist
Yeah, I was talking about him :D

thxx
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Deinomyte Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
LOL OH MY XDXDXD
This is hilarious))))
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:iconcyberii:
CyberII Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2016  Professional Traditional Artist
:D
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TinkerTanker44432 Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2016  Student Artist
Can you sue your self for copyright?
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:iconcyberii:
CyberII Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2016  Professional Traditional Artist
IDK LOL
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